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1 shutdown  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 10:34:45am

Amazing how the GWB pet Ethanol subsidies remain funded by the GOP despite the fact that:
1. Corn ethanol is inefficient
2. Corn ethanol requires the processing of vast amounts of corn into fuel

Funny how ethanol was not mentioned by whatever dancing asshat conservative was the last Congressman to excoriate green energy funding by the government.

2 mikiesmoky2  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 11:08:35am

re: #1 imp_62

You are correct regarding Ethanol.
The Ethanol "theory" has had extreme unintended consequences, i.e., the cost of food.

Why isn't Iraq pumping more oil?
Iraq has the capability to pump 7-8 million barrels per day, yet production is less than 3.
The price of crude would drop, precipitously.

Oooooooops!
Could it be that "money" IS the root of all evil?
My bad!

mz

3 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 1:18:09pm

re: #2 mikiesmoky2
Fuel instead of food was such a horrible idea.

Where do you get your huge Iraq numbers on pumping?
Iraq does not have nearly that much capacity in reserve either.

Their reserves are thought at best be be less than Canada's. Not so impressive after all! Their maximum production ever was 3.5 million barrels per day. Seeking Alpha has this number too.

Then we have this from Salon reporting with figures from BP
"Prior to the American invasion, Iraq was pumping 2.6 million barrels of oil per day, already significantly below its pre-invasion peak of 3.5 million barrels per day. In the first year of the ill-starred U.S. occupation, production quickly plunged to a paltry 1.3 million barrels per day. Only in 2007 did it finally top the 2 million mark and, with improved security, 2.4 million in 2008. Assuming conditions continue to improve, Iraqi output could, for the first time, exceed pre-invasion levels, though barely, in 2009 or 2010 -- six years or more after Baghdad fell to American forces."

4 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 1:21:29pm

re: #2 mikiesmoky2

A far better question-Why are we not pumping more of our own oil here. Why do we have so few cars that run on natural gas given we do have these huge gas reserves under our own soil?

The mid eastern tyrants do what they do on our gas money. How much more of that would you like to continue or expand?

5 freetoken  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 1:57:24pm

re: #2 mikiesmoky2

Why isn't Iraq pumping more oil?
Iraq has the capability to pump 7-8 million barrels per day, yet production is less than 3.

From where do you get these numbers? Iraq can't do that level of production, at all.

And, given the recent terrorist attacks against the oil infrastructure there, Iraq may have a difficult time increasing oil production for some time if ever.

6 mikiesmoky2  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 5:21:23pm

re: #3 Rightwingconspirator

Regarding foodstuff into fuel, it is insidious and may remain until those representing the farmers locate a modicum of morality.

Insofar as Iraq and its crude oil reserves, it has one of the most massive "known" reserves on this planet. Iraq believes within the next 5-10 years, it will be able to pump 10-12 million barrels/day. If it did, it would take more than 40 years to deplete these "known" reserves.

My "crazy" thesis is that the push to go into Iraq in 2003 was not to pump more crude, it was to limit the extraction.

Think that "root of all evil"..............

Also, think about the myriad of ramifications if crude were @ $35-$40 a barrel.

mz

7 mikiesmoky2  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 6:34:06pm

re: #4 Rightwingconspirator

A far better question-Why are we not pumping more of our own oil here. Why do we have so few cars that run on natural gas given we do have these huge gas reserves under our own soil?

The mid eastern tyrants do what they do on our gas money. How much more of that would you like to continue or expand?

You asked, I will tell you...............

1. Selectively, we should be extracting more crude, here.
2. Congress should legislate a $4.00 per gallon additional federal excise tax on gasoline, and a tax credit in the amount of $2,400 (12,000 miles/20mpg = 600 gallons/year).
Qualifications for the tax credit would include:
a. U.S. citizen or possessing green card
b. Owning an automobile.
c. Valid driver's license.
d. Proof of insurance.
e. Over 17 years old.
THIS WOULD BENEFIT THOSE WHO USE LESS THAN 600 GALLONS PER YEAR.
IT WOULD ALTER THE PURCHASING PATTERNS OF PURCHASERS OF MOTOR VEHICLES (our average MPG is about half of the rest of the world).
IT WOULD RAISE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM THOSE "VISITORS" TO THE U.S., WHO DO NOT FILE TAX RETURNS.
IT WOULD RAISE THE COST OF LIVING FOR "VISITORS", WHICH WOULD MITIGATE LONG STAYS BY THOSE VISITORS.

Since crude is a fungible product, not all of our money goes to those "tyrants".
NOTE: Due to its fungibility, there was no reason that we needed to expend our past efforts with the crude-producing nations, i.e., perhaps our foreign relations policies were somewhat misguided.....

mz

8 mikiesmoky2  Wed, Mar 16, 2011 6:45:17pm

re: #5 freetoken

From where do you get these numbers? Iraq can't do that level of production, at all.

And, given the recent terrorist attacks against the oil infrastructure there, Iraq may have a difficult time increasing oil production for some time if ever.

The size of Iraq's crude oil reserves is common knowledge and one can obtain information using Google searches. LOVE THAT GOOGLE!!! LOL

If I were the Columbo character (Peter Falk - I met him about 20 years ago at Roxbury Park on the basketball court; a very nice person), I might start an inquiry as to who would be adversely affected if there were lower crude prices.
Of course, if I were a Senator or Representative, I would take same action.........
Oh!! I would include in the investigation the books and records of Goldman Sachs!!!

mz


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